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Something Stinks
Vernon Morning Star - Letters - February 20, 2010
There is a product produced from sewage sludge (human waste)
mixed with wood chips. This is done at a plant on Commonage Road in
Vernon. It is sold as fertilizer by garden centres. Seventy per cent
of sewage sludge comes from Kelowna. Tons of sludge is sitting in
the open and moved around until the smell is gone.
This process is polluting a wide area with a bad odour. It has been
going on for the last three years. After numerous complaints and
meetings, Vernon council made a decision in the spring of 2009 to
reduce the incoming amount of sewage by 40 per cent. This brought us
some relief.
In the late summer of 2009, our mayor, Mr. Lippert, and some of the
councillors, namely Ms. Baumbrough, Mrs. O'Keefe, Mr. Lee and Mr.
Gilroy, voted for an expansion of this plant. Councillors Spiers and
Nicol did the right thing and voted against it.
Why are our mayor and the four councillors not putting their support
behind the taxpayers of Vernon who put them in office and also pay
their wages?
Kelowna shelters its people from the bad smell by bringing the
sludge to Vernon. As long as our elected officials let that happen,
nothing will change.
How can anybody be so naive and enter into an arrangement where a
city three times the population of Vernon can bring its sewage
sludge here and pollute our good air?
When will Mayor Lippert and his team tell Kelowna to dispose of its
sewage sludge in its own municipality? Only then will we have an
improvement.
Does Vernon want to be on the map for having the biggest outhouse in
the country? Some tourist attraction this will be.
Manfred Brenner |

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Parking committee formed
Vernon Morning Star - By Richard Rolke - January
30, 2010Downtown Vernon merchants will be asked to
help resolve parking problems.
Council has decided to form an action team to look at parking issues
downtown and those merchants who specifically addressed concerns to
the city will be asked to participate.
“The people with the greatest vested interest in parking are the
people who have written these letters,” said Coun. Patrick Nicol.
Among those that wrote to council was Tom Nolan, owner of Nolan’s
Pharmasave.
“Rumour has it that both the former Bennett lot and the Coldstream
Hotel lot are slated to be developed (ie. lost as a place for the
downtown workforce to park),” said Nolan.
“Where are these 150 people going to park? In front of meters of
course. Where will our customers park? Eventually in the north end
of town is my guess.”
However, city officials insist that both properties, while currently
used for parking, were purchased with development plans always in
mind.
“They are likely to be redeveloped with high density uses,” said Kim
Flick, manager of planning and building services.
The Downtown Vernon Association has also written council and is
calling for a comprehensive parking strategy.
“Our history has been that the city has in the past advised that
they were going to act upon issues surrounding parking and has not
followed through,” said Ruth Hoyte, DVA president.
According to Flick, a parking strategy is a critical part of the
land use process currently underway in the city centre. |

Grad fees get parked
Vernon Morning Star - By Richard Rolke - February
11, 2010Charging grads a fee for using Polson Park as
a backdrop is getting a rough ride.
The Greater Vernon Advisory Committee tabled a proposed policy
Thursday that would have covered parking in parks for special
events. Schools would have been billed $315 each for parking control
staff while graduates take part in an annual tradition of having
their pictures taken in Polson Park.
“It’s just another way to extract some money,” said director Patrick
Nicol.
“You should be able to take photos of your kids in the park. This
(money) will just come out of the families.”
While staff stated parking controls are needed to ensure public
safety, director Jim Garlick also opposed the plan.
“This is part of the community,” he said.
“If we have to start nickel and diming every one using a park, I’m
not sure we’re providing a service.”
In a written report to the board, parks and recreation manager Al
McNiven stated that because the internal roads and some green areas
become clogged with vehicles, pedestrians are put at risk.
“As a result access routes for emergency vehicles are congested to
the point where emergency vehicles would not be able to access the
site,” he said.
Instead of proceeding with the policy, a decision was made to table
the matter until a review of the parks and recreation service is
completed. The review could lead to GVAC’s responsibility for some
parks changing.
GVAC will also contact Greater Vernon’s secondary schools about
parking concerns in Polson Park and see if options can be found,
such as parking at nearby sites.
“It’s good to create some guidelines. It’s all about
communications,” said director Paula Harned, who is concerned that
any fees would negatively impact students and parents.
“We should try every effort first before we hire people to manage
the issue.” |

Stamboulieh to keep an eye on city hall
By Richard Rolke - Vernon Morning Star -
Published: November 18, 2008A failed candidate for
mayor vows to keep watching activities at Vernon city hall.
Tony Stamboulieh, who placed fourth in the six-person race, says he
will remain an active part of the Vernon Taxpayers Association.
“I will continue to do this,” he said of speaking out on issues of
concern.
Stamboulieh received 787 votes compared to 2,728 for Wayne Lippert,
2,363 for Juliette Cunningham, 825 for Rick Thorburn, 538 for Steve
Campbell and 148 for Floyd Edwards.
“The beauty of democracy is that those who have taken the trouble to
vote get the government they deserve,” said Stamboulieh.
“Vernon certainly deserves Mayor Lippert and his team. And I wish
them well. They will need all of their collective wisdom during
these coming critical economic times.”
Stamboulieh doesn’t believe his showing in the election is a sign
that the public doesn’t support the taxpayers association.
“They (residents) have always supported the issues and concerns
through petitions massively,” he said.
“But perhaps local elections here and across the province indicated
apathy. After the federal election, perhaps people are tired.”
It has been suggested by Stamboulieh and the association that city
hall hasn’t been open and transparent but Lippert disagrees.
“The mayor’s office has been more accessible than in the past and we
need to keep concentrating on it and letting people know what the
city is doing,” he said
Lippert says there is a need to educate residents about how city
hall operates and some of the provincial legislation it must follow.
“I want to make sure that people know that there are no secret
meetings. All meetings are posted but there are in-camera meetings
where there are issues that must be in-camera,” he said.
Under provincial law, the matters that are to be discussed in
private or in-camera meetings are labour, legal and property. |

Council calls for Ogogrow limits
By Richard Rolke - Vernon Morning Star -
Published: November 13, 2008A controversial fertilizer
plant in the Commonage could see its activities drastically reduced.
Vernon council is directing itself and the City of Kelowna to reduce
the amount of sewer sludge the Ogogrow biosolids facility processes
to the level it was designed to handle for six months so issues of
odour can be monitored.
“That facility has not been proven to be efficient and to operate
without the odour,” said Coun. Barry Beardsell.
Reducing the level of product will only occur when a suitable site
for any excess sewer sludge is found.
Staff had been recommending a $5.6 million expansion of the facility
as a way of trying to improve operations and reduce the odour.
That argument didn’t go over well with some council members.
“We should make it function now before we expand it,” said Coun.
Patrick Nicol.
Construction of the facility — which is owned by the cities of
Vernon and Kelowna — began in 2004 and it became operational in
2006. It replaced facilities Kelowna had within its own community
and Lake Country.
“There was no mention of the problems that occurred in Glenmore
(Kelowna) and Lake Country,” said Beardsell of reports he has heard
about odour complaints at those two sites.
“This council needs to send a strong message to the City of
Kelowna.”
Thirty per cent of the volume at the Commonage plant comes from
Vernon and the rest from Kelowna. Odour complaints have come largely
from residents living along Kalamalka Lake.
“Quiet evenings on the deck have been cut short by the overwhelming
noxious odour,” said resident David Facey.
“This plant has taken away our opportunity for social gatherings.”
There is also a concern that the odour could be causing health
problems.
“Two residents have been diagnosed with severe respiratory issues,”
said Facey.
Facey also suggests that the sludge could be contaminating the
environment.
“It does not perform as promised,” he said of the facility.
Beyond the odour, Beardsell is upset with comments some of his
colleagues are making about the plant.
“A lot of misinformation has been put out blaming the previous
council,” he said.
During a recent all-candidates forum, Coun. Jack Gilroy stated that
the operating agreement for the plant had been signed by the old
council and not the present one.
But the former council only reached a memorandum of understanding
with Kelowna and present council ratified the actual operating
agreement for the facility.
“If I was perfect, I wouldn’t be a politician. I made a mistake,”
said Gilroy.
While he apologizes for his comments, Gilroy says current council
signed the agreement based on information provided by its
predecessor.
“It came down as the greatest thing since sliced bread. It had all
been worked out by them,” he said.
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Draining the trough
By Richard Rolke - Vernon Morning Star - Published
July 15, 2008It's amazing how bureaucrats and
politicians so readily think that the money and assets they
administer are theirs, when that isn't even close to the truth.
A good example of this is the situation that has arisen over N'Kwala
Park in the south BX.
The Vernon School District purchased that site in 1977 as a
potential location for a school. As we all know, a school was never
constructed there, but the Greater Vernon Services Committee has
leased the land for the last 20 years for soccer fields, a
playground and basketball court.
Now, the school district has launched a process to sell the
property, which all Greater Vernon residents, and especially those
in the adjacent MacDonald Road neighbourhood, have come to take for
granted as open space.
It's now anticipated that GVSC will try and acquire the property so
it can remain in public hands, and that's where the problem exists.
While the school district and GVSC are two unrelated agencies, they
are both funded by the same source — you and me, the taxpayers. So a
property that the public shelled out good cash for in 1977 is now
going to be bought again by the same taxpayers.
There is also the reality that the school district has put very
little cash into the property since it was acquired 31 years ago.
Instead, GVSC has made a considerable investment through lease
payments as well as developing and maintaining the sports facilities
there.
And perhaps the most galling part is that the school district has
been forced to sell the property so it can help subsidize the
provincial government's rebuilding of Vernon Secondary School.
Education is a provincial responsibility but the construction of
schools is being downloaded on to the backs of local taxpayers.
Unfortunately, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't
situation for Greater Vernon residents.
If GVSC purchases N'Kwala Park, our taxes go up. But if GVSC doesn't
take control of the site, it will be placed on the open market for
sale and green space could be replaced by a residential subdivision.
And this isn't the first time that the provincial government has
made a buck off taxpayers by selling us something we already own.
Last year, residents at Kingfisher, at the north end of Mabel Lake,
agreed to borrow $175,000 to purchase the vacant school site there
from the North Okanagan-Shuswap School District so it could remain a
community asset.
But local taxes had already been used to purchase the land in the
1950s for a school, and the Kingfisher Community Club had been
maintaining the building since its closure in 2000.
It was a double-whammy for the folks at Kingfisher.
Perhaps I am too naive, and don't understand how the world works.
Maybe I don't see the clear distinction between a provincially
mandated school board and a parks function operated by a local
regional district. It could be that such transactions are a normal
course of business.
But then again, my confusion could also be a direct result of
politicians and bureaucrats slurping up water at the same
taxpayer-irrigated trough. |

Taxes take bite out of businesses
May 30, 2008 - Vernon Morning Star - Letters
I was amazed when I looked at April 30’s Morning Star. The first two
words that came to my mind were "Wow," and "Huh?" These words are in
response to the news brief concerning the property tax increases to
be levied against the city.
I say against the city because I have never in all my years as a
property owner seen an increase as monumental asthis one thrust on
the business owners of our fair city.
Everyone who owns property expects the fees to rise yearly, as this
seems to be council’s way of thanking everyone who tries to get
ahead in this world. Government, whether federal, provincial or
municipal, has a way of taking its share of financial gain made by
it's citizens.
This is expected by all who work or do business and an increase in
taxes is fair enough. But who in their right mind would consider an
increase of 12 per cent in business taxes as fair? Certainly the
city council of Vernon believes this is so. This city council has
found a way to put a dark cloud on the small business trying to make
a living.
Hey council, we are not all Wal-marts or Home Depot, or Overwaitea
Food Group. We are just small business. My wife and I bought a small
business on 29th Street a year ago. Our first property tax bill was
$4,800 on a lot not much bigger than a residential one, and included
in this tax bill was $1,700 for our share of school tax alone. This
compares to a residential fee of $1,700 to $1,800 total for
everything. What benefits did this entitle us?
First of all, we got to have probably one of the only streets in
town without a sidewalk and this stretches for a total length of 10
blocks. Secondly, we get to have a roadway that is full of potholes
and cracks, and thirdly, we get to collect all the dust and dirt we
could ever want; considering we are also on a city transit bus
route. It would have been nice to have been able to express our
opinions on this budget that has been ratified by the council.
As Mayor Lippert would have us believe, he has really looked at this
very hard. Sir, I say to you, that I feel that this budget has been
thrown at the people without regard and without thought.
If this council was all business owners this nonsense would have
never happened and common sense would have prevailed. Instead of the
right thing to do, I have been given the impression that this
council is doing something to cover any shortfalls that have
occurred in its administration, re: civic-complex spending
($373,000). I would say to council, that if you believe that
angering only a few hundred voters will be OK leading up to the next
election, you are very mistaken, as word of this injustice will
travel from businesses to the people that they serve and it will
reflect on this city as not the place to start a new business unless
of course, you are the big box company who can write off a tax
increase with the blink of an eye.
If you believe that the small business can just write this off as a
tax deduction, don`t forget that businesses like ours have to pay
this tax when due and this deduction is not in total, but only a
portion is written off.
So thanks to this council, we will have to come up with another $500
to $600 to keep you from closing us down.
Thank you very much for
helping destroy our faith in democracy and the fairness of the
municipal government
Dale Daignault |

Tax hike sparks questions
June 04, 2008 - Vernon Morning Star - letters
As a commercial property owner in the City Of Vernon, I would
like to ascertain the taxation levels and impacts of the current
assessed values they relate to commercial properties.
It is with great dismay and anger that you have the willingness
to pay for newspaper ads in the local paper relating residential
tax implications but did not have the courtesy to do the same
for commercial properties affected by a much higher percentage
tax increase.
Surely, this could have been accommodated from our 12 per cent
tax increase.
However, since commercial property owners are not afforded a
vote due to legislation and you have not deemed that to be a
democratic cause to fight for on our behalf, I am formally
requesting that the public be made aware of the disproportionate
allocation of income and expenses that you are quite willing to
levy in the city.
Perhaps, it is just because of this high-handed and
unjustifiable inability for us to vote that you can treat our
capital injection into city coffers with such a cavalier
attitude while extolling the virtue of only an average 2 per
cent tax increase to the residential tax base!
Why is the city loathe to publish the commercial tax
implications?
What does the commercial tax base receive for their money?
City street potholes? Increasing crime and property damage?
Growing and non-functioning multi-level bureaucracies?
Dysfunctional representation and communication with all
taxpayers in the city and outlying areas?
Confrontation after confrontation about your public
transparency?
Mayor and council, the litany continues to grow and expand so it
will be interesting and enlightening to see your response on
this issue and many others, given that it is, once again an
election year!
Jeff R. Wuolle |

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